Randy, Debbie, and Isaac talk about the first century gnostics challenge to the churches John was caring for along with how we think about "in" and "out" in Christianity.

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About the Authors
Randy and Debbie Reese are Co-Directing Pastors at Calvary UMC
Isaac Gaff is the Managing Director of Worship and Creative Arts at Calvary UMC